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Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database

by "William Vaughn" <billvaNoSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 24, 2007 at 09:18 AM

Let's talk for a minute about the goals of this project. What is the 
ultimate objective? Do you expect an application written like this to run
as 
a Windows Form application or an ASP (browser-based) application? What
value 
is there in the code? Are there proprietary formulas or other code that
have 
not been replaced by more current technology? Are you trying to save time 
and money by leveraging this code? Are you trying to upgrade your skills
so 
that you can sup****t the program once its deployed? All of these are 
reasonable goals but might not make it worthwhile to convert the code to 
resurrect the application.

As I see it, the BASIC code is about as old as it gets. Today's BASICs are

very different than those used in the 60's and 70's. I know, I used to
teach 
BASIC in college in the early 70's. Visual Basic (versions 1-6) had some 
sup****t for legacy operations as you are using so it might be easier to 
start there. However, consider that a Windows program is not linear 
coding--it's event-driven. This concept was not even considered in the 
languages of the time. The way one interacts with the user is also
radically 
different. The PRINT statements aren't even sup****ted in "Visual
Basic".NET.

Depending on your goals, I would rethink this project. I liken it to a 
person with an old crank telephone wanting to connect it to the Internet
to 
handle his email... ;)

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"DAVID" <david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:OS6f3XZzHHA.312@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Overlays?
>
> VB classic requires that each module be small,
> and that there be no overlap between the modules.
>
> It can sometimes be very difficult to convert
> classic code with overlays to VB, because the
> only clean way to convert is as one big program,
> and then the big program is too large to compile.
>
> I would certainly give it a shot, but I already
> own a copy of VB6, (which is a discontinued product.)
>
> But if it is big, I would choose to use
> Powerbasic (already mentioned in this thread)
> which I also own a copy of, and which has no
> runtime deployment cost. I assume that there
> are other BASICs which might be suitable, but
> PB is the one we have used. PB allows us to
> convert overlays into one very large program,
> with less re-write.
>
>
> (david)
>
> Randy Reimers wrote:
>>   (Hope I'm posting this correctly, otherwise - sorry!, don't know what

>> else to do)
>>  I wrote a set of programs "many" years ago, running in a type of
basic, 
>> called "Thoroughbred Basic", a type of business basic.  I need to 
>> re-write it, bring it kicking and screaming to run on Windows XP.  This

>> is for a video rental place, tracks movie and game rentals, customers, 
>> employee transactions, reservations, does re****ts,..... and on.
>>   I know some of Visual Basic - I now write VB scripts for work.  Can 
>> anyone help with suggestions, as to converting this to a new language? 
>> What may be easiest for me?  And, what type of database engine would be

>> best?  SQL, Access, flat files, I don't know enough.
>>   This does NOT run under Windows, Linux, or any "new" OS - but I can 
>> ex****t all the files, and programs to DOS.  They currently are running
on 
>> 20-30 286 or 386 computers - not a misprint - OLD!  Not networked, not 
>> neccessary. The data files it uses are called "Direct" and "Sort".  I 
>> have about 90 programs, a few are overlays, most are stand-alone, 25-30

>> are just for re****ting purposes.  It can stay character based - no need

>> for fancy screens or pix.
>>
>> Here is a sample:
>>  0010 REM "RENTAL/MEMBER****P SYSTEM TOP HALF AND SUBMENU"
>>  0020 REM "PROGRAM VID-AA"
>>  0030 REM 06/07/99
>>
>>
>>       0050 BEGIN
>>       0060 PRECISION 2
>>       0070 SETERR 09000
>>       0080 DIM B$(80,"-"),B1$(80,"_"),B2$(80,"<"),S$(80," ");
>>            IF FID(0)="T0" THEN
>>               DIM B2$(80,CHR(205))
>>       0090 DEF FNA$(X$)=X$(1,2)+"/"+X$(3,2)+"/"+X$(5,2)
>>       0100 DEF FNC$(X$)=X$(3,2)+"/"+X$(5,2)+"/"+X$(1,2)
>>       0110 DEF FND$(X$)="("+X$(1,3)+") "+X$(4,3)+"-"+X$(7,4)
>>       0120 DEF FNE$(X$)=X$(1,2)+X$(4,2)+X$(7,2)
>>       0130 DEF FNF$(X$)=X$(5,2)+X$(1,4)
>>       0140 DEF FNZ$(X$)=X$(1,POS("  "=X$+"  ")-1)
>>       0150 OPEN (6) "CONTRO"
>>       0160 READ (6,KEY="001") *,N1$,*,A0$,A1$,A2$
>>       0170 READ (6,KEY="TODAY") Z9$,Z8$
>>       0180 LET E1$="";
>>            READ (6,KEY="RENT"+FID(0),DOM=00200) E1$,T
>>       0190 REMOVE (6,KEY="RENT"+FID(0)) ;
>>            IF T<>TIM THEN
>>               LET E1$=""
>>       0200 IOLIST 
>> M0$(1,250),M(0),M(1),M(2),M(3),M(4),M(5),M(6),M(7),M(8),M(9),M
>>                   (10),M(11),M(12),M(13),M(14),M(15),M(16)
>>
>>  0210 REM "OPEN FILES"
>>
>>       0220 OPEN (1) "VID01"
>>       0230 OPEN (2) "VIDST"
>>       0240 OPEN (3) "VIN01"
>>       0250 OPEN (4) "PHONEY"
>>       0260 OPEN (5) "VIV02"
>>       0270 OPEN (8) "IDSRT"
>>       0280 OPEN (9) "VIN02"
>>       0290 OPEN (10) "VIN03"
>>       0300 OPEN (11) "RSVST"
>>       0310 OPEN (12) "VINST"
>>       0320 OPEN (14) "VIN04"
>>
>>  0330 REM "PAINT SCREEN"
>>
>>       0340 LET N3$=FNZ$(N1$)+" - MEMBER****P SYSTEM"
>>       0350 LET Y$=FNF$(FNE$(Z9$)),Y=NUM(Y$(3,2))-6
>>       0360 IF Y<1 THEN
>>               LET 
>> Y$(1,2)=STR(NUM(Y$(1,2))-1:"00"),Y$(3,2)=STR(NUM(Y$(3,2))+6:"0
>>                   0")
>>            ELSE
>>               LET Y$(3,2)=STR(Y:"00")
>>       0370 PRINT 
>> 'CS','SB',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(36-INT(LEN(N3$)/2),0),N3$,'BG',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,1),B2$,'EG','SF'
>>
>>       0380 PRINT 'SB',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,2),"NUMBER",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(15,2),"LAST 
>> NAME",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(50,2),"INVOICE #",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(
>>                  0,3),"COMMENTS",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(65,3),"LAST 
>> TIME",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(56,4),"HARDWARE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,4),"
>>                  NAME",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(35,4),"DL#",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(42,5),"VCR 
>> OWNER?",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(55,5),"MAILING?",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(6
>> 
>> 6,5),"TYPE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,5),"ADDRESS",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,6),"ADDRESS",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(42,6),"JOINED",
>>                  @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(58,6),"LAST ACTIVITY",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,7),"ZIP",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(18,7),"CARRIER 
>> ROUTE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(
>>                  42,7),"MTD",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(51,7),"YTD",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(61,7),"HOLD",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,8),"PHONE

>> HM",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(24
>> 
>> ,8),"WK",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(42,8),"#LT",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(50,8),"#FREE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(60,8),"#MP",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,10),"T
>>                  OT 
>> $$",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(16,10),"IG",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(25,10),"IM",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(34,10),"IU",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(43,10),"IV",
>>                  @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(52,10),"IX",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(62,10),"UNPAID 
>> FEE",'BG',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,9),B2$,@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,11),B2$
>>                  ,'EG','SF'
>>
>>  0390 REM "IOLISTS"
>>
>>       0400 IOLIST 
>> 'LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','L
>>                   D','LD'
>>
>>  0410 REM "EXTRA SETUP"
>>
>>       0420 LET M5$="##0",M6$="####.00-",M7$="###.00-"
>>       0430 READ (6,KEY="DUEDATE") D1$;
>>            LET D4$=D1$,D2$=D1$
>>       0440 READ (6,KEY="STORENUM",DOM=00441) R8
>>       0450 DIM Z5$(36);
>>            READ (6,KEY="DZIP",DOM=00451) Z5$(1,9)
>>       0460 READ (6,KEY="DACODE",DOM=00461) Z5$(10,3)
>>       0470 READ (6,KEY="DAADDR",DOM=00471) Z5$(13,24)
>>       0480 LET D5$=S$(1,6);
>>            READ (6,KEY="HANDOUT",DOM=00490) D5$,D6$
>>
>>  0490 REM "SOLICIT MEMBER NUMBER"
>>
>>       0500 IF E1$<>"" THEN
>>               LET E0$=E1$(1,3);
>>               IF E1$(1,3)<>S$(1,3) THEN
>>                  GOTO 00520
>>
>>       0510 GOSUB 02430;
>>            IF E0$="" THEN
>>               GOTO 00010
>>
>>       0520 PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),B1$(1,6);
>>            IF E1$<>"" THEN
>>               PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),'SB',E1$(4,6),'SF'
>>       0530 DIM M0$(250),M(16);
>>            LET M0$(222,1)=STR(R8:"0"),M0$(147,6)=FNE$(Z9$)
>>       0540 LET G$="**",M0$(210,3)=E0$(1,3)
>>       0550 PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,23),"F1=I.D. NUMBER",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,22),"ENTER MEMBER #, 
>> CR=LAST NAME,
>>                   F2=PHONE SEARCH, F3=NEXT NEW CUSTOMER #, F4=END",;
>>            INPUT (0,ERR=00550) @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),Q$,@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,23),'CL',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,22),'CL',
>>       0560 IF CTL=1 THEN
>>               GOTO 01240
>>       0570 IF CTL=2 THEN
>>               GOTO 01360
>>
>>       0580 LET X=NUM(Q$,ERR=00590);
>>            IF LEN(Q$)=7 OR LEN(Q$)=10 THEN
>>               LET G$=Q$;
>>               GOTO 01370
>>       0590 IF Q$="T" THEN
>>               READ (6,KEY="TEMPNUM",DOM=00600) P5;
>>               LET P5=P5+1,Q1$=STR(P5:"T00000");
>>               READ (1,KEY=Q1$,DOM=00690) ;
>>               WRITE (6,KEY="TEMPNUM") P5;
>>               GOTO 00590
>>       0600 IF Q$="END" OR CTL=4 THEN
>>               GOTO 09110
>>       0610 IF CTL=3 THEN
>>               READ (6,KEY="NXTCUS",DOM=00620) P5;
>>               LET P5=P5+1,Q$=STR(P5:"#####0");
>>               WRITE (6,KEY="NXTCUS") P5;
>>               READ (1,KEY=Q$,DOM=00680) ;
>>               GOTO 00610
>>       0620 IF Q$="" AND E1$<>"" THEN
>>               LET Q$=E1$(4,6);
>>               GOTO 00710
>>       0630 IF Q$="" THEN
>>               PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),S$(1,6);
>>               GOTO 01070
>>
>>       0640 FOR I=1 TO LEN(Q$)
>>       0650    IF POS(Q$(I,1)<"!")<>0 OR POS(Q$(I,1)>"z")<>0 THEN
>>                  EXITTO 00540
>>
>>       0660 NEXT I
>>       0670 IF LEN(Q$)>6 THEN
>>               GOTO 00550
>>
>>       0680 LET Q$=S$(1,6-LEN(Q$))+Q$
>>       0690 IF Q$="T" THEN
>>               LET Q$=Q1$
>>       0700 PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),Q$
>>       0710 LET M0$(1,6)=Q$
>>       0720 READ (1,KEY=M0$(1,6),DOM=01490) IOL=00200
>>       0730 GOSUB 00740;
>>            GOTO 00850
>>       0740 IF M0$(238,1)=" " THEN
>>               LET X7$=S$(1,7)
>>            ELSE
>>               LET X7$="*NOF*";
>>               CLOSE (7) ;
>>               OPEN (7) "MEMTY";
>>               READ (7,KEY=M0$(238,1),DOM=00750) X7$;
>>               LET X7$=X7$(2)
>>       0750 LET X7$=X7$+S$(1,10)
>>       0760 IF M0$(153,1)=" " THEN
>>               LET X8$=S$(1,11)
>>            ELSE
>>               LET X8$="NOT ON FILE";
>>               CLOSE (7) ;
>>               OPEN (7) "VSYH";
>>               READ (7,KEY=M0$(153,1),DOM=00770) X8$;
>>               LET X8$=X8$(2)
>>       0770 LET X5$=S$(1,14);
>>            IF M0$(112,10)<>S$(1,10) THEN
>>               LET X5$=FND$(M0$(112,10))
>>       0780 LET X6$=S$(1,14);
>>            IF M0$(122,10)<>S$(1,10) THEN
>>               LET X6$=FND$(M0$(122,10))
>>       0790 IF M0$(215,6)=S$(1,6) THEN
>>               LET X3$="NONE"
>>            ELSE
>>               LET X3$=FNA$(M0$(215,6))
 




 36 Posts in Topic:
Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-06-07 16:28:24 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail706NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-06-11 18:29:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Michael Cole"   2007-06-12 10:16:19 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
rowe_newsgroups <rowe_  2007-06-12 04:02:00 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Norman Yuan" &  2007-06-12 07:53:33 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
meisen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-12 11:06:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
James <JT@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-16 23:09:50 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-06-20 17:26:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
James <JT@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-22 13:34:49 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail706NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-06-22 16:41:59 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
James <JT@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-23 23:28:06 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail706NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-06-24 01:51:28 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
bok118@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-21 12:32:07 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-07-09 16:56:24 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
DAVID <david@[EMAIL PR  2007-07-24 11:57:17 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-24 09:18:35 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Michael Mattias&quo  2007-07-24 12:09:02 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-24 14:13:33 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Karl E. Peterson&qu  2007-07-24 14:31:37 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-24 15:18:46 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Judson McClendon&qu  2007-07-26 10:03:15 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Karl E. Peterson&qu  2007-07-26 09:07:17 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-07-25 07:54:33 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-25 08:57:50 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Karl E. Peterson&qu  2007-07-24 14:28:36 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
DAVID <david@[EMAIL PR  2007-07-27 10:50:05 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Michael Mattias&quo  2007-07-27 07:59:34 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-07-27 16:06:58 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-28 10:14:41 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ted rosenberg <tedrose  2007-08-03 20:21:39 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-08-03 23:08:45 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ted rosenberg <tedrose  2007-08-03 23:23:37 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-08-04 00:01:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ted rosenberg <tedrose  2007-08-04 09:56:47 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-08-04 16:35:58 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail807NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-08-04 17:00:18 

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