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Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database

by "Randy Reimers" <rreimers.nul@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 9, 2007 at 04:56 PM

Thanks, Bill.
  I am thinking of upgrading my skills, and SQL, VB6 seems to be the route
I 
will probably need to go.  Guess I am leaning toward either VB Express and

SQL, or VB .Net.  I don't care about "overkill" - who knows what may be 
needed next?  I am looking for a reasonable "cost" to the old company, as 
they would still need to purchase all new computers, or GOOD used XP 
computers, wiped and re-loaded.
  My problem - my poor brain doesn't seem to be able to "get it", like I 
used to.  Any good pointers to VB Express/VB.NET and use with SQL
database? 
The programmers here access several types of databases with C#.NET, or 
whatever it is called - not VB.NET.  I have lots of simple code to look at
- 
not much that truly works with databases.
  How would I go about writing a code converter?

Thanks, all, for what you have provided!

Randy Reimers



"William (Bill) Vaughn" <billva@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:%23APEV2BvHHA.1212@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Randy,
>    Been there. I've been working with BASIC languages since the
paper-tape 
> days (before the audio cassette Kansas-city standard days). Before you
go 
> launching of on a conversion project, it might be wise to ask a few 
> questions.
>    Do you plan to upgrade your skills at the same time or simply get
your 
> applications to work on a new OS? If this is the case, you should be 
> investigating technology that is not already obsolete (perhaps not as
aged 
> as Thoroughbred Basic). For example the JET database engine (while still

> in wide use) is really obsolete. The DAO interface used to access it has

> not been fixed/tuned/repaired for many years. While some would say the
SQL 
> Server Express is overkill, there are some advantages to using it 
> (especially when you're thinking about learning new skills). And, I
would 
> agree. SQL Express is overkill for some applications, but SQL Server 
> Compact is not. This engine is not new and has been recently re-licensed

> and re-engineered (somewhat) to work on a Windows platform. It's light, 
> fast and more secure than JET without the problems of clutter-removal 
> typical of JET.
>    As to the language, VB6 is also very widely used and rightly so. 
> However, it has been replaced with a more modern OO language that
(again) 
> if you're interested in upgrading your skills would be a better choice.
>    Both SQL Server Compact and Visual Basic (Express) are free downloads

> and get you up to speed technically. It might be a fun project to write
a 
> code converter to migrate your source code to VB.NET.
>
> hth
>
> -- 
> William (Bill) Vaughn
> Author, Mentor, Consultant
> Microsoft MVP
> INETA Speaker
> www.betav.com/blog/billva
> www.betav.com
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> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no 
> rights.
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>
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> "Randy Reimers" <rreimers.nul@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:%23MBDBOHrHHA.4984@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  (Hope I'm posting this correctly, otherwise - sorry!, don't know what 
>> else to do)
>> I wrote a set of programs "many" years ago, running in a type of basic,

>> called "Thoroughbred Basic", a type of business basic.  I need to 
>> re-write it, bring it kicking and screaming to run on Windows XP.  This

>> is for a video rental place, tracks movie and game rentals, customers, 
>> employee transactions, reservations, does re****ts,..... and on.
>>  I know some of Visual Basic - I now write VB scripts for work.  Can 
>> anyone help with suggestions, as to converting this to a new language? 
>> What may be easiest for me?  And, what type of database engine would be

>> best?  SQL, Access, flat files, I don't know enough.
>>  This does NOT run under Windows, Linux, or any "new" OS - but I can 
>> ex****t all the files, and programs to DOS.  They currently are running
on 
>> 20-30 286 or 386 computers - not a misprint - OLD!  Not networked, not 
>> neccessary. The data files it uses are called "Direct" and "Sort".  I 
>> have about 90 programs, a few are overlays, most are stand-alone, 25-30

>> are just for re****ting purposes.  It can stay character based - no need

>> for fancy screens or pix.
>>
>> Here is a sample:
>> 0010 REM "RENTAL/MEMBER****P SYSTEM TOP HALF AND SUBMENU"
>> 0020 REM "PROGRAM VID-AA"
>> 0030 REM 06/07/99
>>
>>
>>      0050 BEGIN
>>      0060 PRECISION 2
>>      0070 SETERR 09000
>>      0080 DIM B$(80,"-"),B1$(80,"_"),B2$(80,"<"),S$(80," ");
>>           IF FID(0)="T0" THEN
>>              DIM B2$(80,CHR(205))
>>      0090 DEF FNA$(X$)=X$(1,2)+"/"+X$(3,2)+"/"+X$(5,2)
>>      0100 DEF FNC$(X$)=X$(3,2)+"/"+X$(5,2)+"/"+X$(1,2)
>>      0110 DEF FND$(X$)="("+X$(1,3)+") "+X$(4,3)+"-"+X$(7,4)
>>      0120 DEF FNE$(X$)=X$(1,2)+X$(4,2)+X$(7,2)
>>      0130 DEF FNF$(X$)=X$(5,2)+X$(1,4)
>>      0140 DEF FNZ$(X$)=X$(1,POS("  "=X$+"  ")-1)
>>      0150 OPEN (6) "CONTRO"
>>      0160 READ (6,KEY="001") *,N1$,*,A0$,A1$,A2$
>>      0170 READ (6,KEY="TODAY") Z9$,Z8$
>>      0180 LET E1$="";
>>           READ (6,KEY="RENT"+FID(0),DOM=00200) E1$,T
>>      0190 REMOVE (6,KEY="RENT"+FID(0)) ;
>>           IF T<>TIM THEN
>>              LET E1$=""
>>      0200 IOLIST 
>> M0$(1,250),M(0),M(1),M(2),M(3),M(4),M(5),M(6),M(7),M(8),M(9),M
>>                  (10),M(11),M(12),M(13),M(14),M(15),M(16)
>>
>> 0210 REM "OPEN FILES"
>>
>>      0220 OPEN (1) "VID01"
>>      0230 OPEN (2) "VIDST"
>>      0240 OPEN (3) "VIN01"
>>      0250 OPEN (4) "PHONEY"
>>      0260 OPEN (5) "VIV02"
>>      0270 OPEN (8) "IDSRT"
>>      0280 OPEN (9) "VIN02"
>>      0290 OPEN (10) "VIN03"
>>      0300 OPEN (11) "RSVST"
>>      0310 OPEN (12) "VINST"
>>      0320 OPEN (14) "VIN04"
>>
>> 0330 REM "PAINT SCREEN"
>>
>>      0340 LET N3$=FNZ$(N1$)+" - MEMBER****P SYSTEM"
>>      0350 LET Y$=FNF$(FNE$(Z9$)),Y=NUM(Y$(3,2))-6
>>      0360 IF Y<1 THEN
>>              LET 
>> Y$(1,2)=STR(NUM(Y$(1,2))-1:"00"),Y$(3,2)=STR(NUM(Y$(3,2))+6:"0
>>                  0")
>>           ELSE
>>              LET Y$(3,2)=STR(Y:"00")
>>      0370 PRINT 
>> 'CS','SB',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(36-INT(LEN(N3$)/2),0),N3$,'BG',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,1),B2$,'EG','SF'
>>
>>      0380 PRINT 'SB',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,2),"NUMBER",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(15,2),"LAST
NAME",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(50,2),"INVOICE 
>> #",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(
>>                 0,3),"COMMENTS",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(65,3),"LAST 
>> TIME",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(56,4),"HARDWARE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,4),"
>>                 NAME",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(35,4),"DL#",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(42,5),"VCR 
>> OWNER?",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(55,5),"MAILING?",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(6
>>
>> 6,5),"TYPE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,5),"ADDRESS",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,6),"ADDRESS",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(42,6),"JOINED",
>>                 @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(58,6),"LAST ACTIVITY",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,7),"ZIP",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(18,7),"CARRIER 
>> ROUTE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(
>>                 42,7),"MTD",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(51,7),"YTD",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(61,7),"HOLD",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,8),"PHONE 
>> HM",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(24
>>
>> ,8),"WK",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(42,8),"#LT",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(50,8),"#FREE",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(60,8),"#MP",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,10),"T
>>                 OT 
>> $$",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(16,10),"IG",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(25,10),"IM",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(34,10),"IU",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(43,10),"IV",
>>                 @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(52,10),"IX",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(62,10),"UNPAID 
>> FEE",'BG',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,9),B2$,@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,11),B2$
>>                 ,'EG','SF'
>>
>> 0390 REM "IOLISTS"
>>
>>      0400 IOLIST 
>> 'LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','LD','L
>>                  D','LD'
>>
>> 0410 REM "EXTRA SETUP"
>>
>>      0420 LET M5$="##0",M6$="####.00-",M7$="###.00-"
>>      0430 READ (6,KEY="DUEDATE") D1$;
>>           LET D4$=D1$,D2$=D1$
>>      0440 READ (6,KEY="STORENUM",DOM=00441) R8
>>      0450 DIM Z5$(36);
>>           READ (6,KEY="DZIP",DOM=00451) Z5$(1,9)
>>      0460 READ (6,KEY="DACODE",DOM=00461) Z5$(10,3)
>>      0470 READ (6,KEY="DAADDR",DOM=00471) Z5$(13,24)
>>      0480 LET D5$=S$(1,6);
>>           READ (6,KEY="HANDOUT",DOM=00490) D5$,D6$
>>
>> 0490 REM "SOLICIT MEMBER NUMBER"
>>
>>      0500 IF E1$<>"" THEN
>>              LET E0$=E1$(1,3);
>>              IF E1$(1,3)<>S$(1,3) THEN
>>                 GOTO 00520
>>
>>      0510 GOSUB 02430;
>>           IF E0$="" THEN
>>              GOTO 00010
>>
>>      0520 PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),B1$(1,6);
>>           IF E1$<>"" THEN
>>              PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),'SB',E1$(4,6),'SF'
>>      0530 DIM M0$(250),M(16);
>>           LET M0$(222,1)=STR(R8:"0"),M0$(147,6)=FNE$(Z9$)
>>      0540 LET G$="**",M0$(210,3)=E0$(1,3)
>>      0550 PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,23),"F1=I.D. NUMBER",@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,22),"ENTER MEMBER #,
CR=LAST 
>> NAME,
>>                  F2=PHONE SEARCH, F3=NEXT NEW CUSTOMER #, F4=END",;
>>           INPUT (0,ERR=00550) @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),Q$,@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,23),'CL',@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(0,22),'CL',
>>      0560 IF CTL=1 THEN
>>              GOTO 01240
>>      0570 IF CTL=2 THEN
>>              GOTO 01360
>>
>>      0580 LET X=NUM(Q$,ERR=00590);
>>           IF LEN(Q$)=7 OR LEN(Q$)=10 THEN
>>              LET G$=Q$;
>>              GOTO 01370
>>      0590 IF Q$="T" THEN
>>              READ (6,KEY="TEMPNUM",DOM=00600) P5;
>>              LET P5=P5+1,Q1$=STR(P5:"T00000");
>>              READ (1,KEY=Q1$,DOM=00690) ;
>>              WRITE (6,KEY="TEMPNUM") P5;
>>              GOTO 00590
>>      0600 IF Q$="END" OR CTL=4 THEN
>>              GOTO 09110
>>      0610 IF CTL=3 THEN
>>              READ (6,KEY="NXTCUS",DOM=00620) P5;
>>              LET P5=P5+1,Q$=STR(P5:"#####0");
>>              WRITE (6,KEY="NXTCUS") P5;
>>              READ (1,KEY=Q$,DOM=00680) ;
>>              GOTO 00610
>>      0620 IF Q$="" AND E1$<>"" THEN
>>              LET Q$=E1$(4,6);
>>              GOTO 00710
>>      0630 IF Q$="" THEN
>>              PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),S$(1,6);
>>              GOTO 01070
>>
>>      0640 FOR I=1 TO LEN(Q$)
>>      0650    IF POS(Q$(I,1)<"!")<>0 OR POS(Q$(I,1)>"z")<>0 THEN
>>                 EXITTO 00540
>>
>>      0660 NEXT I
>>      0670 IF LEN(Q$)>6 THEN
>>              GOTO 00550
>>
>>      0680 LET Q$=S$(1,6-LEN(Q$))+Q$
>>      0690 IF Q$="T" THEN
>>              LET Q$=Q1$
>>      0700 PRINT @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(7,2),Q$
>>      0710 LET M0$(1,6)=Q$
>>      0720 READ (1,KEY=M0$(1,6),DOM=01490) IOL=00200
>>      0730 GOSUB 00740;
>>           GOTO 00850
>>      0740 IF M0$(238,1)=" " THEN
>>              LET X7$=S$(1,7)
>>           ELSE
>>              LET X7$="*NOF*";
>>              CLOSE (7) ;
>>              OPEN (7) "MEMTY";
>>              READ (7,KEY=M0$(238,1),DOM=00750) X7$;
>>              LET X7$=X7$(2)
>>      0750 LET X7$=X7$+S$(1,10)
>>      0760 IF M0$(153,1)=" " THEN
>>              LET X8$=S$(1,11)
>>           ELSE
>>              LET X8$="NOT ON FILE";
>>              CLOSE (7) ;
>>              OPEN (7) "VSYH";
>>              READ (7,KEY=M0$(153,1),DOM=00770) X8$;
>>              LET X8$=X8$(2)
>>      0770 LET X5$=S$(1,14);
>>           IF M0$(112,10)<>S$(1,10) THEN
>>              LET X5$=FND$(M0$(112,10))
>>      0780 LET X6$=S$(1,14);
>>           IF M0$(122,10)<>S$(1,10) THEN
>>              LET X6$=FND$(M0$(122,10))
>>      0790 IF M0$(215,6)=S$(1,6) THEN
>>              LET X3$="NONE"
>>           ELSE
>>              LET X3$=FNA$(M0$(215,6))
>>
>
>
 




 36 Posts in Topic:
Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-06-07 16:28:24 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail706NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-06-11 18:29:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Michael Cole"   2007-06-12 10:16:19 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
rowe_newsgroups <rowe_  2007-06-12 04:02:00 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Norman Yuan" &  2007-06-12 07:53:33 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
meisen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-12 11:06:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
James <JT@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-16 23:09:50 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-06-20 17:26:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
James <JT@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-22 13:34:49 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail706NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-06-22 16:41:59 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
James <JT@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-23 23:28:06 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail706NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-06-24 01:51:28 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
bok118@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-21 12:32:07 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-07-09 16:56:24 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
DAVID <david@[EMAIL PR  2007-07-24 11:57:17 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-24 09:18:35 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Michael Mattias&quo  2007-07-24 12:09:02 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-24 14:13:33 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Karl E. Peterson&qu  2007-07-24 14:31:37 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-24 15:18:46 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Judson McClendon&qu  2007-07-26 10:03:15 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Karl E. Peterson&qu  2007-07-26 09:07:17 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-07-25 07:54:33 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-25 08:57:50 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Karl E. Peterson&qu  2007-07-24 14:28:36 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
DAVID <david@[EMAIL PR  2007-07-27 10:50:05 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Michael Mattias&quo  2007-07-27 07:59:34 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Randy Reimers"  2007-07-27 16:06:58 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"William Vaughn"  2007-07-28 10:14:41 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ted rosenberg <tedrose  2007-08-03 20:21:39 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-08-03 23:08:45 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ted rosenberg <tedrose  2007-08-03 23:23:37 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-08-04 00:01:21 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ted rosenberg <tedrose  2007-08-04 09:56:47 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
"Tom Lake" <  2007-08-04 16:35:58 
Re: Converting from an ancient BASIC to new database
ArarghMail807NOSPAM@[EMAI  2007-08-04 17:00:18 

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